Ok, then you can see, when I put this, for example, against the clay, you'll see where we have to have to art and where we don't, and where we have to cut out. And it, to be exactly the same, but it helps, you know. And I mean, if you have no model, and now you have no magic skills, on my drawing, that really is very helpful. My students, they love it. We are going, actually, to make some kind of different thing, I like the horse with, with a neck coming up, because this one, the position, he was like, you know, walking, and this is going to be standing. Then the neck is ok right now, and we're going to take this out. Then we can see that it looks like a kind of horse. This, I'm going to take it off when, when dries off. That?s why I am keeping here. Then we're going to make the nostrils, we're going to make the lips here, have everything and narrow. So then here, we're going to put some kind of clay here, for the eye socket, they have like a big one here, now I am looking at the other horse, those horses that we have around here that are not really very good ones, this is the Leonardo da Vinci horse, that was taken by a drawing that somebody give me, it was not really a good looking horse, it looks like, something different than a horse though.