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on 4/30/2009 Men only marry women to use them for sex, to have children, and make them their personal slave. The least you can do is put the damn seat down.

bugsb257 said

on 4/15/2009 I have never understood why this is the man's problem. If you are the one who is about to sit on a sticky, narrow toilet bowl rim, how about you look before you put your arse down? It is YOUR arse. Just a little info for you: Sometimes men sit down too. And I, for one, am always sure to check out what I am about to put my bare arse on! Why can't you simply look before you sit? You'd think after just once of sitting on the rim you'd be able to figure this out on your own. But remember that "training can take time".

jouuu said

on 4/15/2009 "Cluetoons" If ever anyone bought me some manner of picture book , popup book or anything else with generic cartoons to show me how I was a clueless man, I might be a tad offended. Remember even though us men aren't mind readers neither are women and just because we don't always do what you want doesn't mean we don't understand what that is. Sometimes we just don't agree with it.

jouuu said

on 4/15/2009 I agree ebics this is highly offensive. Seriously this is disgustingly sexist. This is why the divorce rate is so high. I will get married the day I find a women willing to by ME an engagement ring (then we can take it back together to buy something we will both enjoy with the money.)Here is a clue ladies if you are giving us intimacy, affection , support, and companionship are but only four things you should expect in return and those are the same things in kind. If your willing to treat us as dogs over ridiculous whims and hold these things for ransom you soon won't have to worry about us leaving that seat up after all. I am so sick of this idea that we men are somehow emotionally illiterate, and only need to earn sex by appeasing our women whims in order to be happy. This idea of proving we value our relationships by learning how obtuse we are is nonsense. "Cluetoons" If ever anyo

tamij said

on 1/17/2009 From reading these comments it appears that some people could use a great book I just got my husband called "Please put the toilet seat down and 49 other cluetoons to help him improve your relationship." More than just advice on the toilet seat, a lot of great advice on relationships in general.

CariBerry said

on 1/11/2009 My boyfriend always used to forget to put the toilet seat down. My friend gave me a toilet seat alarm she found at www.toiletseatalert.com/tsa and it is never up now. If he forgets, the sensor beeps and he remembers to close it. I love it!

CariBerry said

on 1/11/2009 My boyfriend always used to forget to put the toilet seat down. My friend gave me a toilet seat alarm she found at www.toiletseatalert.com/tsa and it is never up now. If he forgets, the sensor beeps and he remembers to close it. I love it!

ebics said

on 11/13/2008 (the other half of my post, continued from below)
… and then I’ll probably be seeing you in my office. In my office, I do pre-marriage counseling, marriages, and marriage counseling.

If you’re looking for good marriage advice, keep looking! It certainly isn’t in the article above. This article would more aptly be named "How to get rid of the men in your household" or "How to estrange yourself from all the men in your household."

The best thing I've found for GOOD marraige advice is if you google “familylife,” and then look at the resources on the .com website. If you follow their advice, the toilet seat problem will go away. If you follow the advice in the article above your relationship will more likely go away. Your chioce.

ebics said

on 11/13/2008 I long for the day when male-bashing is no longer a socially acceptable form of sexism in our culture! I will work for a world where my sons do not have to hear demeaning words like "train" when referring to their gender/sex.

I am offended both personally and professionally by this kind of talk in adult relationships:
1) Personally, I am offended for myself and for my sons. I don’t want them to have to put up with this kind of sexism anymore than I should have to put up with it. Some of my favorite people are women, and I do not have to be “trained” to accommodate their wishes. As a loving son, brother, husband, and father, I simply have to be asked.
2) Professionally, I am offended because I know that the procedures outlined above simply will not work. In fact, any attempt at trying to manipulate someone else or “train” them to act according to your wishes will back fire… and the

thisguy said

on 10/4/2008 WHY THIS IS A NON-ISSUE WOMEN NEED TO GET OVER USING THE "STEPS ARTICLE" AS EXAMPLE:

1. Making "vague" comments about cleanliness insults the intelligence of your partner and shows how much a silly issue it is to begin with.

2. Urine spots/stains are nasty i admit...Any real man would clean up after himself as a sign of self respect if anything.

3. If you want the lid closed, then simply close it. It takes 1.5 secs to close, and if you are going to the bathroom you are going to raise it anyways...JUST FLUSH GUYS ;)

4. Again, any self respecting man will clean up after himself..ones who don't are nasty and no...most men DO clean up after themselves.

5. Going on a sex/shopping/whatever strike is selfish, and VERY trivial considering it takes so little to open one's eye and notice you have to just flex some arm muscles to lower the seat. Seems like a stab at girl power to me.

Tuiqqu said

on 9/17/2008 i never understand this complaint...You should be sooo happy if a man actually lifts it up when peeing, so you could have a clean seat...some men(clearly depends on culture a bit too)donot lift the seat and pee it dirty sometimes.So now thats rude.But this is only my opinion.

on 8/28/2008 It is not only a sanitary issue but a safety issue to put the seat down. I taught my boys to put the seat down from the time that they were old enough to use the toilet and they have always put it down. As far as safety goes-men, have you ever left the seat up, gone in the bathroom (needing to have a BM), sat down and fallen in? You could seriously get hurt! Think of it as caring for your loved ones and preventing accidents. What do you think would happen if your little old Grandmother were to fall in-they could break a hip. So please gentleman put the seat down as because you care about your family. PS-my grown boys still put the seat down!

fatjack said

on 7/13/2008 I believe that a person should be smart enough to look at what they are going to sit on before doing so. But, My mother demanded that I put the seat up before urination. Next she told me that putting the seat down when I finished was an act of courtesy to women just as holding the door or tipping your hat.



Then Came The Women’s Liberation Movement!
That’s where “they said” they wanted “equal treatment” (A Two Way Street?).

“NO DOUBLE STANARDS FOR ME”.

It’s much easier for me not to touch the seat at all,
I’ll do that if they want!
I can hit the water with most of it.

psavach said

on 5/7/2008 Caution: Withholding sex for leaving the toilet seat up may cause said man to leave you.

Warning: If you refer to "training" your man he may not appreciate you "training" him like he's a dog.

Fact: This method of behaviour is not efficient (see www.msu.edu/~choijay/etiquette.pdf

mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/856/1/MPRA_paper_856.pdf

http://www.scq.ubc.ca/a-game-theoretic-approach-to-the-toilet-seat-problem/
)

Tip: Perhaps some female scientists/mathematicians should do a writeup asserting why the seat should be put down (i.e. even if the seat is made to be put down why should we?)
This idea is not logical. If we always used things as "they are made to be" we would have never made advances such as the development of computers.

In short, the argument to put the seat down is not a strong one.

on 3/19/2008 What the hell is with this issue? I'm a man and I always put the toilet seat down (lid and all) because it seems more hygenic to me, plain and simple. Why can't women lower it when they go and men raise it when they go? It's an equal effort for BOTH parties that way. Get over yourselves and realise it's not worth fighting over. Now, if one of you tears the toilet seat off, THEN you can fight.

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